NBA veteran Matt Barnes capped off a 14-year career in the league with the achievement many veterans are desperate to experience before their playing days are over: an NBA championship with the 2016-17 Golden State Warriors.

And yet, Barnes doesn’t quite see it that way.

During an episode of his All the Smoke podcast with fellow NBA vet Stephen Jackson, Barnes had something to say when guest Tracy McGrady said getting a ring via the 2013 San Antonio Spurs — for whom he played a total of 31 postseason minutes — would not have been satisfying.

Barnes also said he didn’t even hold onto the ring, which is apparently in the office of Warriors senior vice president of communications Raymond Ridder right now.

Is Barnes right about his Warriors ring?

The discourse on whether or not an ancillary player on a championship team really won a ring is well-established by now, and Barnes’ honesty is somewhat refreshing. No one is going to ascribe the 2016-17 championship to Barnes, but — as Barnes mentions — he still did contribute to a championship team and his name will forever be on the roster for that team.

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